HDD SATA Diskussion und Grundlagen zur Erkennung rund um Datenträger / "refurbished" / "rezertifiziert" / "neu" usw.

[Raphael5000]

FARM-Werte für die 2. HDD

Spoiler: FARM-Werte Sata2

sh-4.4# smartctl -l farm /dev/sata2
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-linux-4.4.302+] (localbuild)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)
        FARM Log Page 0: Log Header
                FARM Log Version: 3.7
                Pages Supported: 6
                Log Size: 98304
                Page Size: 16384
                Heads Supported: 24
                Number of Copies: 0
                Reason for Frame Capture: 0
        FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
                Serial Number: ZL2LDMYZ
                World Wide Name: 0x5000c500dc3c95bc
                Device Interface: SATA
                Device Capacity in Sectors: 31251759104
                Physical Sector Size: 4096
                Logical Sector Size: 512
                Device Buffer Size: 268435456
                Number of Heads: 18
                Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches
                Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
                Firmware Rev: SN03
                ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01621
                ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x016cc
                ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000044
                Power on Hours: 22518
                Spindle Power on Hours: 35
                Head Flight Hours: 35
                Head Load Events: 14
                Power Cycle Count: 52
                Hardware Reset Count: 5
                Spin-up Time: 10 ms
                Time to ready of the last power cycle: 21745 ms
                Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
                Model Number: ST16000NM001G-2KK103
                Drive Recording Type: CMR
                Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 57754
                Assembly Date (YYWW):
                Depopulation Head Mask: 0
        FARM Log Page 2: Workload Statistics
                Total Number of Read Commands: 2162339007
                Total Number of Write Commands: 815480852
                Total Number of Random Read Commands: 273504361
                Total Number of Random Write Commands: 72212123
                Total Number Of Other Commands: 12105587
                Logical Sectors Written: 156997282590
                Logical Sectors Read: 1742187546809
                Number of dither events during current power cycle: 21
                Number of times dither was held off during random workloads: 39
                Number of times dither was held off during sequential workloads: 242
                Number of Read commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Read commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Read commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Read commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Write commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Write commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Write commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Write commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
        FARM Log Page 3: Error Statistics
                Unrecoverable Read Errors: 0
                Unrecoverable Write Errors: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors: 0
                Number of Read Recovery Attempts: 0
                Number of Mechanical Start Failures: 0
                Number of Reallocated Candidate Sectors: 0
                Number of ASR Events: 0
                Number of Interface CRC Errors: 0
                Spin Retry Count: 0
                Spin Retry Count Normalized: 100
                Spin Retry Count Worst: 100
                Number of IOEDC Errors (Raw): 0
                CTO Count Total: 0
                CTO Count Over 5s: 0
                CTO Count Over 7.5s: 0
                Total Flash LED (Assert) Events: 0
                Index of the last Flash LED: 0
                Flash LED Event 0:
                        Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
                        Timestamp of Event 0 (hours): 0
                        Power Cycle Event 0: 0
                Flash LED Event 1:
                        Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
                        Timestamp of Event 1 (hours): 0
                        Power Cycle Event 1: 0
                Flash LED Event 2:
                        Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
                        Timestamp of Event 2 (hours): 0
                        Power Cycle Event 2: 0
                Flash LED Event 3:
                        Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
                        Timestamp of Event 3 (hours): 0
                        Power Cycle Event 3: 0
                Flash LED Event 4:
                        Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
                        Timestamp of Event 4 (hours): 0
                        Power Cycle Event 4: 0
                Flash LED Event 5:
                        Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
                        Timestamp of Event 5 (hours): 0
                        Power Cycle Event 5: 0
                Flash LED Event 6:
                        Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
                        Timestamp of Event 6 (hours): 0
                        Power Cycle Event 6: 0
                Flash LED Event 7:
                        Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
                        Timestamp of Event 7 (hours): 0
                        Power Cycle Event 7: 0
                Uncorrectable errors: 0
                Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read errors due to ERC: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 0:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 1:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 2:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 3:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 4:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 5:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 6:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 7:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 8:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 9:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 10:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 11:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 12:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 13:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 14:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 15:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 16:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
                Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 17:
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
                        Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
        FARM Log Page 4: Environment Statistics
                Current Temperature (Celsius): 31
                Highest Temperature: 37
                Lowest Temperature: 21
                Average Short Term Temperature: 0
                Average Long Term Temperature: 0
                Highest Average Short Term Temperature: 0
                Lowest Average Short Term Temperature: 0
                Highest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
                Lowest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
                Time In Over Temperature (minutes): 0
                Time In Under Temperature (minutes): 0
                Specified Max Operating Temperature: 60
                Specified Min Operating Temperature: 5
                Current Relative Humidity: 0
                Current Motor Power: 2838
                Current 12 volts: 12.381
                Minimum 12 volts: 11.486
                Maximum 12 volts: 12.395
                Current 5 volts: 5.034
                Minimum 5 volts: 5.024
                Maximum 5 volts: 5.336
                12V Power Average: 0.000
                12V Power Minimum: 0.000
                12V Power Maximum: 0.000
                5V Power Average: 0.000
                5V Power Minimum: 0.000
                5V Power Maximum: 0.000
        FARM Log Page 5: Reliability Statistics
                Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Raw): 0x0000000007588f61
                Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Normalized): 81
                Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Worst): 64
                Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Raw): 0x0000000000ab5189
                Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Normalized): 71
                Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Worst): 60
                High Priority Unload Events: 0
                Helium Pressure Threshold Tripped: 0
                LBAs Corrected By Parity Sector: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
                DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
                RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
                FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 0: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 1: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 2: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 3: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 4: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 5: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 6: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 7: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 8: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 9: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 10: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 11: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 12: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 13: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 14: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 15: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 16: 0
                Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 17: 0
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 0: 505
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 1: 463
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 2: 487
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 3: 484
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 4: 464
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 5: 524
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 6: 488
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 7: 470
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 8: 490
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 9: 535
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 10: 520
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 11: 508
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 12: 528
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 13: 485
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 14: 504
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 15: 501
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 16: 533
                Write Power On (hrs) by Head 17: 462
                MR Head Resistance from Head 0: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 1: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 2: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 3: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 4: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 5: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 6: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 7: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 8: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 9: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 10: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 11: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 12: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 13: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 14: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 15: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 16: 0
                MR Head Resistance from Head 17: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 0: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 1: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 2: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 3: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 4: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 5: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 6: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 7: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 8: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 9: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 10: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 11: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 12: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 13: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 14: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 15: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 16: 0
                Second MR Head Resistance by Head 17: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 0: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 1: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 2: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 3: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 4: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 5: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 6: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 7: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 8: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 9: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 10: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 11: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 12: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 13: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 14: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 15: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 16: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 17: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 0: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 1: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 2: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 3: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 4: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 5: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 6: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 7: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 8: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 9: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 10: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 11: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 12: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 13: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 14: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 15: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 16: 0
                Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 17: 0

 

[ctrlaltdelete]

@goetz und bei mir laufen noch 2 in der DS415+

 

[ctrlaltdelete]

@Raphael5000 weil wir meistens sudo -i verwenden, aber bitte mit Vorsicht, du bist dann Root User.
Und ja, deine Annahme ist korrekt. Hast du die als neu bei Mindfactory erworben?

 

[DaveR]

sudo -s is a little safer than sudi -i

On a Synology with sudo -i you could accidentally move, copy or write files to /root and cause the DSM system partition to become too full to do DSM updates or package updates.

At least if you make the same mistake with sudo -s you'll only accidentally move, copy or write files to your own home folder.

Of course with either sudo -i or sudo -s you can still do a lot damage to DSM and/or your data, like accidentally deleting the storage pool.

 

[Michael336]

Moin,
muss man jetzt damit rechnen, dass die meisten, als neu angebotenen, günstigen Serverplatten, bereits in Benutzung waren?

 

[Raphael5000]

@ctrlaltdelete ich gehe stark davon aus, dass die HDD neu ist, zumindest steht nichts gegenteiliges auf der Website.
Die Artikelnummer bei m1ndfactory lautet 73094 (Kostete 248,99 €). Allerdings weist die letzte Rezension von einem Käufer auf eine OEM Platte hin.
Wie sollte man beim Umtausch vorgehen? Habt ihr schon Erfahrungswerte? Tauschen die Verkäufer die HDDs ohne Probleme um? Was empfehlt ihr?

 

[ctrlaltdelete]

Ich würde Mindfactory anschreiben und um Nachbesserung bitte, da du eine gebrauchte HDD bekommen hast, was du mit den farm Werten belegen kannst.

 

[maxblank]

Ich würde Mindfactory anrufen und dies mit derem Support besprechen oder wie von @ctrlaltdelete vorgeschlagen, anschreiben. Auch die letzte Kundenbewertung spricht nicht nur von OEM-Ware, sondern auch von Daten eines RAID-Verbundes, die ausgelesen werden konnten. Also bist du scheinbar auch dort kein Einzelfall.

 

[maxblank]

Moin,
muss man jetzt damit rechnen, dass die meisten, als neu angebotenen, günstigen Serverplatten, bereits in Benutzung waren?

Moin,
das kann und will ich nicht abschließend bzw. generell beantworten. Tatsache ist, dass die Tranche bei JB-Computer von diesen Seagate Platten bisher alle, die wir ausgelesen hatten, bereits zig Tausende von Stunden gelaufen sind. Ich habe gestern Seagate EXOS X18 ausgelesen, die ich von einem meiner Distributoren gekauft habe, die waren nagelneu. Der Distributor kauft allerdings direkt bei Seagate, die kosten auch dementsprechend und können nicht die Preise im Internet mitgehen.
Das habe ich im Business Umfeld allerdings immer so gemacht und hatte damit nie Probleme.

Für den privaten Bereich und das Homelab werde ich zukünftig für meinen Teil nur noch Seagate kaufen, alleine wegen der Umsetzung bei den FARM-Werten, die ich auslesen kann.

 

[HollDoll]

'Fast alle Festplatten verlassen irgendwann einmal das Rechenzentrum und somit den Kontrollbereich ihres Eigentümers. Seagate geht davon aus, dass in Rechenzentren täglich schätzungsweise 50.000 Festplatten außer Dienst genommen werden.'

Die müssen ja dann irgendwo hin. Und da der Preisunterschied groß ist, ist es die Versuchung auch. Die wahren Zahlen möchte ich garnicht wissen ...

 

[maxblank]

Das ist auch absolut nachvollziehbar und der Markt für solche Platten ist auch da. Je nach Anwendungszweck profitieren wir auch davon, allerdings will ich dann ganz klar wissen, was ich da kaufe. Das ist wie mit dem Kilometerstand beim Gebrauchtwagenkauf...

 

[Datenschubse]

Moin,
JB-Computer hat doch bereits seit Anfang 2023 seinen Ruf weg.
Aber dieser Händler war bisher für mich eher ein Einzelfall.

Wirklich problematisch wird es jetzt eigentlich erst dadurch, dass auch mf "betroffen" ist.
Sprich, wenn mf betroffen ist, dann sind auch unzählige andere Händler betroffen.

Für mich fliegt dadurch Seagate bei den Herstellern raus.
Und mf bei den brauchbaren Händlern für Festplatten.

Viele Grüße

 

[Datenschubse]

Ich würde Mindfactory anrufen und dies mit derem Support besprechen oder wie von @ctrlaltdelete vorgeschlagen, anschreiben. Auch die letzte Kundenbewertung spricht nicht nur von OEM-Ware, sondern auch von Daten eines RAID-Verbundes, die ausgelesen werden konnten. Also bist du scheinbar auch dort kein Einzelfall.

OEM-Ware ist bei mf (leider) normal.
Aber OEM-Ware heißt ja nicht, dass die Platte bereits in Benutzung war.

 

[Datenschubse]

Moin,
muss man jetzt damit rechnen, dass die meisten, als neu angebotenen, günstigen Serverplatten, bereits in Benutzung waren?

Also was Seagate betrifft:

Zumindest im günstigen Preissegment meiner Ansicht nach: ja.​

Im auffallend billigen Preissegment sowieso.​

 

[HollDoll]

Seagate schafft ja zumindest durch diese besonderen Werte Transparenz. So wie ich unsere hellen Köpfe hier verstehe, ist das bei anderen Herstellern nicht der Fall.

 

[maxblank]

Für mich fliegt dadurch Seagate bei den Herstellern raus.

Also was Seagate betrifft:
Zumindest im günstigen Preissegment meiner Ansicht nach: ja.Im auffallend billigen Preissegment sowieso.

Der Zusammenhang erschließt sich mir nicht! Erkläre mir das bitte kurz aus deiner Sicht.

Deine Aussage bedeutet ja im Umkehrschluss, dass dies bei WD und Toshiba in diesem günstigem Preissegment nicht vorkommt...

 

[Datenschubse]

Bei Seagate ist das Zurücksetzen der Smart-Werte anscheinend besonders einfach.

Schau doch mal welche Festplatten-Hersteller JB-Computer vertickt:
https://www.jb-computer.de/komponenten-zubehoer/speicher/hdd/
(Ich sehe JB-Computer als führend bei dieser "Vertriebsmasche" an.)

Bei z.B. Toshiba scheint es wohl nicht so einfach zu gehen.

Also kaufe ich in Zukunft ganz einfach nur die Marken und Modelle, die JB-Computer nicht vertickt.

 

[Datenschubse]

Seagate schafft ja zumindest durch diese besonderen Werte Transparenz. So wie ich unsere hellen Köpfe hier verstehe, ist das bei anderen Herstellern nicht der Fall.

Oder nicht notwendig, weil sich die Smart-Werte nicht so einfach zurücksetzen lassen?

 

[Datenschubse]

Deine Aussage bedeutet ja im Umkehrschluss, dass dies bei WD und Toshiba in diesem günstigem Preissegment nicht vorkommt...

Ja, das sehe ich persönlich in etwa so. Wobei auch da die Möglichkeit besteht, dass es bisher nur noch keiner aufgedeckt hat...

 

[maxblank]

Alles klar, danke für deine Ausführungen.